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Carlos the Jackal: The World’s First Super-Terrorist

Sep 29, 2026 · 1h 4m

Summary

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Joby Warwick discusses his book, *The Jackal*, which chronicles the life of Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, known as Carlos the Jackal. The episode explores how a Venezuelan Marxist became the world’s first "super terrorist" through high-profile attacks like the 1975 OPEC siege in Vienna. Warwick analyzes Carlos’s narcissistic psychology, his mentorship under Wadi Haddad, and the evolution of state-sponsored terrorism from the Cold War era to the rise of jihadist networks.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Toyota trucks and weekend adventures Introduction to Carlos the Jackal and modern terrorism Guest introduction: Joby Warrick and his credentials Who was Carlos? Origins and Venezuelan background The Soviet Union's appeal and the Cold War context Education at Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow Carlos's ideology: Opportunism vs. commitment Psychological profile: Narcissism and lack of empathy Was Carlos a KGB agent? The intelligence debate Wadi Haddad: Mentor and PFLP founder The strategy of global terrorism and media attention The Dawson's Field hijackings and their consequences The failed assassination of Joseph Sieff in London Carlos's bumbling nature and the Orly Airport attack How the nickname 'The Jackal' was born The 1975 OPEC hostage crisis in Vienna Gaddafi's role and the sabotage of peace processes Life in Eastern Europe and becoming a mercenary The shift to jihadist networks and capture in Sudan Interviewing Carlos in prison: Unrepentant and charming Conclusion: Relevance to current geopolitical events
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