Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)

Wrong numbers and why they survive, with Aaron Brown

May 14, 2026 · 55m

Summary

Patrick McKenzie interviews Aaron Brown, author of *Wrong Numbers*, about institutional failures in data interpretation and the lack of accountability in scientific and media reporting. Brown shares anecdotes from his early career, such as conflicting estimates on tractor fuel types, to illustrate how high-status organizations often prioritize narrative over accuracy. The discussion highlights the contrast between financial markets, which penalize errors, and academic or journalistic fields that rarely retract flawed claims. They argue for applying rigorous skepticism and "skin in the game"…

Topics discussed

Introduction and the diesel vs. gasoline tractor anecdote Institutional failure and the lack of accountability in science Financial fraud, auditing, and the lack of rigor in research Sponsor message: Mercury banking Sponsor message: Granola AI notepad Data transparency and the difficulty of replicating studies The NTSB bus safety study and political bias Media corrections vs. retractions and truth-seeking incentives The 'River vs. Village' metaphor and betting on beliefs Predicting war, pandemics, and historical fears Climate change, energy efficiency, and pro-growth arguments Logistics improvements and optimism about infrastructure Conclusion and book promotion
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