The white woman tears of Elizabeth Holmes
Summary
Hosts Gene Demby and B.A. Parker discuss the documentary "You Can See Everything," which features comedian Nathan Fielder documenting Elizabeth Holmes before her prison sentence. Joined by guests Ronald Young Jr. and Hunter Harris, they analyze the film’s exploration of truth, objectivity, and the specific social privileges afforded to Holmes as a white woman. The conversation highlights how race and gender shape public perceptions of fraud and accountability, questioning whether the narrative would differ if Holmes were Black.
Topics discussed
Sponsor: The Visitors play
Intro: The Elizabeth Holmes documentary
Nathan Fielder's role and the film's premise
The elephant in the room: race and gender
Sponsors: Con Ed, Angie, Squarespace
Guest introductions and viewing advice
Audience reactions and communal viewing
Pre-movie perceptions of Elizabeth Holmes
Post-movie feelings and delusion vs. performance
The dynamic with Billy Evans and manipulation
White womanhood, sympathy, and eye contact
Confession: Being bamboozled by her gaze
Narrative control and the 'damsel' trope
Race, gender, and the documentary's lens
Nathan Fielder's style and Holmes as a cipher
Transition: Rehabilitation and accountability
Sponsors: Prolon, Whole Foods, Con Ed
What accountability and apology look like
Recidivism, Theranos 2.0, and passivity
Social location, scripts, and investor fraud
Closing remarks and credits
Sponsors: Capella University, Squarespace
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