25 years after 9/11, our definition of terrorism continues to expand
Sep 8, 2026 · 27m
Summary
This episode examines the expanding definition of terrorism in the U.S., from its post-9/11 focus on Muslims to current designations of left-wing activists. Hosts Gene Demby and B.E. Parker discuss how the Trump administration labels groups like Antifa as terrorists, eroding civil liberties. Guests Sahar Salad and Alex Lubin trace the term’s history, noting its use against Indigenous peoples, Black activists, and anti-imperialist movements. They argue that this broad application justifies state violence and surveillance, effectively bringing the "war on terror" home to American cities.
Topics discussed
Sponsor and show introduction
Trump administration labels left-wing groups as terrorists
Introduction of expert Sahar Saladin
Post-9/11 association of Muslims with terrorism
USA Patriot Act and surveillance policies
Creation of DHS, TSA, and ICE after 9/11
Fusion centers and surveillance of protesters
Risks of expanding the definition of terrorism
Impact on civil liberties and democratic norms
Historical roots: US wars against Indigenous peoples
Black Power, Chicano movements, and drug dealers as terrorists
Legal definitions and domestic terrorism prosecutions
BLM protests and the Antifa designation
ICE killings and the label of domestic terrorism
Historical targeting of anti-colonial and decolonizing groups
The global war on terror and the 'everywhere war'
The war on terror comes home to US cities
Erosion of Fourth Amendment rights and state violence
Expansion of executive power and presidential authority
Credits and closing remarks
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