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25 years after 9/11, our definition of terrorism continues to expand

Sep 8, 2026 · 27m

Summary

Hosts Ba Parker and Jean Denby examine the expanding definition of "terrorism" in the U.S., from its post-9/11 focus on Muslims to its current application against domestic protesters and Antifa. Guests Saher Saladin and Alex Lubin discuss how counterterrorism policies like the Patriot Act and fusion centers have eroded civil liberties and due process. They trace the term’s history to Indigenous and anti-colonial resistance, arguing that labeling dissent as terrorism justifies extrajudicial state violence and the militarization of American cities.

Topics discussed

Trump labels Antifa and protesters as terrorists Introduction to Saher Saladin and the ambiguity of 'terrorism' Post-9/11 targeting of Muslims and the War on Terror Patriot Act, secret evidence, and surveillance policies Fusion centers and surveillance of domestic protesters Risks of expanding the definition of terrorism Civil liberties and democratic norms under threat Introduction to Alex Lubin and historical context Historical use of 'terrorist' against Indigenous and Black groups Legal definitions and political use of domestic terrorism Counter-insurgency policing and recent prosecutions Extrajudicial violence and historical parallels Anti-imperialist movements labeled as terrorists Defining the War on Terror and state violence The 'everywhere war' and the return of ICE to US cities The concept of 'homeland' as a post-2001 creation Erosion of 4th Amendment rights and state power Comparison to Watergate and Vietnam era civil liberties Expansion of executive power and Trump as a symptom Credits and sign-off
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