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Tom Levenson: Anti-vaxxers are living in the past

Aug 11, 2026 · 37m

Summary

Alan Alda interviews MIT professor Tom Levinson about his book *A Pox on Fools*, exploring the history of vaccine opposition from 1721 to the present. They discuss how early theological and safety concerns evolved into modern misinformation, including the debunked autism link. Levinson explains how herd immunity protects vulnerable populations and critiques current political leaders who erode trust in scientific institutions.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The invisible benefit of vaccines History of vaccination: Cotton Mather and smallpox Early objections: Theology and natural immunity Historical risks: Syphilis transmission and polio disasters Herd immunity and the eradication of smallpox Modern perception: Why we underestimate disease risks The Wakefield fraud and the autism myth Erosion of trust in scientific institutions Categorizing anti-vax groups and the role of microbes Rapid Fire: Tom Levinson's personal questions
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