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Antonio Damasio: Consciousness starts in a surprising place

Sep 15, 2026 · 36m

Summary

Neuroscientist Antonio Damasio joins Alan Alda to discuss his new book, *Natural Intelligence*, arguing that consciousness arises from bodily feelings rather than complex brain reasoning. They explore how homeostatic signals like hunger and temperature create self-awareness, contrasting this biological foundation with the limitations of artificial intelligence. The conversation also distinguishes between private feelings and public emotions, while examining the shared consciousness of other animals and the evolutionary origins of our mental unity.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Fidelity Active ETFs Sponsor: Daddy Digger movie trailer Introduction to Antonio Damasio and natural intelligence The role of feelings in consciousness vs. reason Feelings as the foundation of sentient life Critique of the cerebral cortex-centric view of consciousness How feelings allow us to investigate our internal state Homeostasis and the feeling of existence Evolutionary origins of consciousness and natural intelligence Differences between human and artificial consciousness AI escape incidents and the nature of AI goals Consciousness, culture, and the reward of survival Show break and Patreon sponsorship appeal Sponsor: Fidelity and Daddy Digger ads Consciousness in animals: dogs, monkeys, and bacteria Consciousness in plants and spiders Distinction between private feelings and public emotions Damasio's path from language to consciousness research Seven quick questions with Antonio Damasio Credits and preview of next episode with Sue Black Sponsor: Wise and Fidelity Active ETFs
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