Could the Fremont Troll Get Built Today? Plus, the Argument for More Light at Green Lake
Sep 8, 2026 · 35m
Summary
Jane Sihu and producers Sam and Liam debate whether Green Lake needs more lighting, weighing community safety against wildlife concerns and dark sky initiatives. The episode then features Steve Badaine, the architect behind the Fremont Troll, who recounts the 1990 public competition that led to its creation and the volunteer effort to build it. Badaine also discusses the troll’s maintenance, its copyright royalties, and the evolving role of public art in Seattle, noting that modern administrative processes make such raw, community-driven projects difficult to replicate today.
Topics discussed
Intro: Revisiting the Fremont Troll and Green Lake
Green Lake lighting debate: Pro and con positions
Personal experiences with darkness and safety at Green Lake
Research on lighting, crime, and wildlife impact
Reflective gear and the balance of light vs. dark
Parks and Rec response and future of the petition
Sponsors: FRS Clippers and Grand Central Bakery
Steve Badaine intro and his 'Seattle Soapbox'
The origin story: The 1990 public art competition
Design process: Choosing the troll and the model
Construction details: Materials, funding, and the VW
The time capsule and vandalism history
Maintenance, ownership, and copyright issues
Commercial use: Chia pets and movie deals
Could the Troll be built today? Public art trends
Tension between artistic vision and city safety
Steve's career: Jersey Devil and teaching legacy
Closing remarks and contact info
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