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Elizabeth Holmes

Sep 30, 2026 · 31m

Summary

Hosts Noah, Cecil, and Eli discuss Elizabeth Holmes and the Theranos scandal, highlighting how she deceived investors and patients with a non-functional blood-testing device. The episode covers her obsessive Steve Jobs persona, the fraudulent claims made to a prestigious board of former government officials, and the eventual exposure by employee Tyler Shultz. It concludes with Holmes’s guilty verdict, prison sentence, and a quiz segment where Eli correctly identifies the title of her biopic.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: Lincoln Rejuvenate and Hershey's Cre Bars Introduction and show premise Context: Expert warnings and the 'smart person' fallacy Elizabeth Holmes' childhood and early ambitions Stanford years and the origin of the Edison concept Founding Theranos and the Steve Jobs persona The Balto the Husky incident The prestigious board and lack of medical expertise Sketch: Meeting with an honest person Sponsors: Raycon and Lincoln Rejuvenate Expansion, patient harm, and the Safeway deal The truth about the Edison machine and standard analyzers Tyler Shultz's whistleblowing and legal threats FDA shutdown, collapse, and criminal conviction Quiz and closing remarks Outro and final sponsors
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