The Only Thing Worse Than Technical Debt is Newly Discovered Technical Debt
Jul 14, 2026 · 43m
Summary
Hosts David Spark and Andy Ellis interview Tim Callahan, CIO/CISO of AFLAC and CSO Hall of Fame inductee. They discuss navigating the first 90 days, balancing AI governance with speed, and rethinking vulnerability management. The episode also features a "What's Worse" risk scenario game and debates on designing security for predictable human error.
Topics discussed
Opening advice: A+ vs C grade in security
Introduction, sponsor Vanta, and guest welcome
CISO Hall of Fame and career highlight clips
Common mistakes in the first 90 days as a CISO
Building trust and working the boss's agenda
Navigating AI uncertainty and the 70% plan
Sponsor segment: Vanta AI risk monitoring
What's Worse: HR data leak vs. stale accounts
AI's impact on vulnerability management and governance
Sponsor segment: Speakeasy AI control plane
Human error vs. design failure in security
Closing remarks, hiring at AFLAC, and outro
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