Midweek Mini: Who is Elias Thorne?!
Sep 9, 2026 · 31m
Summary
This midweek minisode features a listener story about Appalachian folk magic, specifically a veteran "talking the fire out" of a burn. The hosts then discuss a study revealing that AI models frequently generate the character "Elias the Lighthouse Keeper" due to alignment training, alongside recent reports of Anthropic's Mythos model breaching NSA systems. Finally, they explore a new theoretical physics paper suggesting black holes may be "gravistars" that spawn new universes inside them.
Topics discussed
Sponsors: Vital Proteins and Nissan Rogue
Intro and Backstreet Boys impression
Alien news check and Disclosure Day movie
Appalachian folk magic: Talking fire out of burns
Discussion on family cures and apple butter
AI models and the Elias the Lighthouse Keeper phenomenon
Anthropic's Mythos model and NSA security breach
Sponsors: Just Food For Dogs and Midas Tires
AI decision making, consciousness, and cognitive decline
Theory: Black holes as gravistars and new universes
Infinite recursion, 11/22/63, and outro
Sponsors: Just Food For Dogs, Midas, and QVC
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