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Joanna Stern on the New Siri, OpenAI’s Weird Gadget, and Life After the Wall Street Journal

Aug 12, 2026 · 48m

Summary

Peter Kafka interviews Joanna Stern about her new independent media venture, New Things, and her book on living with AI. They discuss the limitations of robotics, the public backlash against AI, and OpenAI’s upcoming screenless hardware. Stern also reviews Apple’s improved Siri and explains her strategy for producing high-quality video content.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: Odoo and Amazon Prime Intro: Greg Brockman's laptop disgust and Joanna Stern's new venture Joanna Stern's transition to indie media and video focus AI experiments: Robot masseuses and the struggle of folding laundry The economics of AI data collection and home cleaning services AI backlash, generational fears, and teenage attitudes OpenAI's screenless device and the debate over removing screens AR glasses, wearable tech, and the persistence of screens Review of Apple's new AI-powered Siri and privacy concerns Joanna's media journey: WSJ, NBC, and building an audience Business model: Video production costs and monetization strategies The future of journalism and independent media networks Outro and sponsors: Nespresso and PreNuvo
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