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Is It Time for Canada to Start Spying on the U.S.?

Nov 10, 2026 · 42m

Summary

This episode explores Canada's potential creation of a foreign intelligence service, sparked by a $6 billion CSIS budget increase and a visit to the historic Guzenko apartment. Hosts Sam Connart and Harrison Lohman discuss the implications with former intelligence officer Phil Gursky, who argues that Canada needs an independent agency to protect its interests amid unreliable US partnerships. The segment also covers Prime Minister Mark Carney's global summit tour, a federal by-election in Quebec, and Elizabeth May's petition to legalize non-sexual public nudity.

Topics discussed

Intro: CSIS gets $6 billion, will we get a James Bond? Sponsorships: Opendoor, Stamps.com, and Douglas Mattress The Soviet spy ring in Ottawa's Somerset Street Igor Gusenko and the 1945 document handover Canada's intelligence history and the creation of CSIS The new budget and national security strategy Introduction of Phil Gursky, former intelligence analyst Why Canada lacks a foreign intelligence service The Five Eyes alliance and reliance on the US Is US intelligence sharing still reliable under Trump? The need for independent intelligence collection Case study: The Iraq War and independent verification Sponsorship: Douglas Mattress Sponsorship: Opendoor Domestic vs. foreign intelligence capabilities What would a Canadian foreign intelligence mission look like? Challenges of spying on allies and Five Eyes dynamics The calculus of spying on friends: Germany and Canada Canada's lack of national security culture Trudeau's impact on intelligence morale and culture Multiculturalism, diaspora groups, and security threats Phil Gursky's patriotic stance on the new agency Critique of the new national security strategy Sponsorship: Stamps.com CSIS morale issues and internal dysfunction Addressing CSIS morale and the role of the director Impact of political accusations on intelligence staff The inadequacy of the national security strategy document Specific threats: Russia, China, and trade diversification Trade with China and the two detained Canadians Conflict between trade interests and security values The advisory role of intelligence services Optimism for a new foreign intelligence wing Will Canada get its own James Bond movie? Canada's advantages as a 'sneaky' intelligence actor Wrap-up of the interview with Phil Gursky Stephen Guilbeault's resignation and political switch Doug Ford's strategy of recruiting big names Mark Carney's nervous habits and book release Carney's travel plans: Dublin and APEC Carney in China: APEC summit and security concerns Carney's message to Putin at APEC Petition to legalize public nudity in Canada Outro and preview of the media criticism show Call to action for Canada Land membership Thanks to supporters Sponsorship: Stamps.com
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