Politicians Loved Data Centers. Now They’re Running Away From Them. (w/ Nathaniel Rich)
Summary
The host interviews author Bulwark about his novel *Cloud Thief* and a New York Times Magazine piece on a 2000s London data center heist. They discuss how AI and environmental concerns have fueled public outrage against data centers, shifting political dynamics, and the security risks of centralized information. The conversation explores how individuals navigate modern anxieties about climate change and technology through storytelling and personal choice.
Topics discussed
Introduction of Nathaniel Rich and his new novel
Climate change: Sudden disasters vs. gradual shifts
The London data center heist and surveillance history
Public outrage and political backlash against data centers
Security risks: Terrorism and systemic vulnerability
Cloud Thief: Navigating modern malaise and nihilism
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