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I Wish I Made That: Eric Appel, director of 'The Breadwinner'

Sep 18, 2026 · 15m

Summary

Writer-director Eric Apell joins Jesse Thorn to discuss his new film, The Breadwinner, and his feature debut, Weird: The Al Yankovic Story. In the "I Wish I Made That" segment, Apell selects Pee-wee's Big Adventure, analyzing its whimsical tone and genre-bending style. He also shares a story about directing a short video with Paul Reubert for Funny or Die, reflecting on how the classic film's joyful spirit influences his own creative work.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Con Edison Introduction to the 'I Wish I Made That' segment Introduction of guest Eric Appel and his film 'Weird' Discussion of 'Weird: The Al Yankovic Story' Overview of Eric Appel's new film 'The Breadwinner' Clips from 'The Breadwinner' and transition to guest choice Eric Appel reveals his choice: 'Pee-wee's Big Adventure' Childhood perspective: Emotional freedom and whimsical world Adult perspective: Dual audience appeal and rewatching Appreciating the filmmaking fun and simple story structure Genre-bending style and the influence of the script Tim Burton's tonal influence and character archetypes Personal impact: 'Weird' as a homage to 'Pee-wee' Comparing stylistic choices and genre shifts in both films Unconscious influence of 'Pee-wee' on Eric's work Anecdote: Directing Paul Reubens for a Funny or Die video Reflections on artistic legacy and joy in filmmaking Promotion of 'The Breadwinner' and Criterion essay Jesse Thorne's move to Berkeley and show credits Sponsors: Total Wine and Boll & Branch
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