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Is Bardella too toxic for Le Pen’s campaign?

Sep 30, 2026 · 16m

Summary

Hosts Zoya Shaolich and Ian Wishart discuss Ursula von der Leyen’s Balkan tour, highlighting EU enlargement roadmaps for Montenegro and Albania while noting stalled progress in Kosovo and Serbia. The episode also covers allegations of past anti-Semitic texts by Jordan Bardella, which threaten to undermine Marine Le Pen’s French presidential campaign. Finally, the hosts share humorous anecdotes about their experiences in political saunas at various embassies in Brussels.

Topics discussed

Intro and sponsor: Reju Europe on textile waste Brussels vibe: Von der Leyen trip and Le Pen news Host banter and breakfast cake Von der Leyen's Western Balkans tour itinerary EU enlargement: Timetables and Montenegro progress Kosvo's stalled negotiations and morale impact Serbia: War crimes funeral and Russian influence France: Bardella's anti-semitism allegations Details on the 2013 text messages and targets Le Pen's rebranding strategy and election implications Transition to sauna segment and Finnish sports Diplomatic saunas in Brussels: Estonia and Finland Ian's story: Extracting info in a hot sauna Other Brussels saunas and listener recommendations Outro and call to action Sponsor outro: Reju Europe circular economy
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