Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Revisiting: Patti Smith

Oct 15, 2026 · 1h 9m

Summary

Malcolm Gladwell interviews Patti Smith at Electric Lady Studios, where she recounts meeting Jimi Hendrix at the studio's opening party just weeks before his death. The conversation explores her formative years in the Chelsea Hotel art scene, her transition from poetry to rock and roll, and her disciplined writing process during her years in Detroit. Smith also shares personal anecdotes about her relationship with Robert Mapplethorpe and her enduring friendship with Michael Stipe.

Topics discussed

Sponsorships and introduction of Patti Smith Episode overview: Patti Smith's writing and Electric Lady First visit to Electric Lady and Jimi Hendrix's departure Arriving in New York in 1967 and moving to Chelsea Early years: poetry, mentors, and the bookstore job Life at the Chelsea Hotel and meeting Robert Mapplethorpe Why New York: reinvention and freedom for outsiders Meeting Robert Mapplethorpe and the bond of 'Just Kids' Identity as a performer vs. musician and visual artist Sponsor break: Before the Moment and Chase Business The second life: public performance and touring Europe Learning stage presence from Johnny Winter The loss of 60s icons and the goal of 'Horses' Musical style: improvisation, covers, and vocal range Friendship with Michael Stipe and the Rock Hall of Fame Sponsor break: Before the Moment and Chase Business The third life: moving to Detroit and marrying Fred Developing a writing discipline during the Detroit years Writing 'Just Kids': Robert's request and the process Completing 'Just Kids' and Sam Shepard's praise Gratitude for New York's cultural community The pandemic: canceling the world tour and quarantine Starting the Substack: 'The Melting' and daily writing Embracing social media and concluding remarks Credits and final sponsorships
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