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Interpol's Daniel Kessler

Aug 18, 2026 · 54m

Summary

Interpol guitarist Daniel Kessler discusses the creation of their new album, *This Mere Ways a Ton*, marking their first New York recording in over a decade. He reflects on the band’s early struggles, a surprise backstage meeting with David Bowie, and his enduring creative routine of playing guitar while watching films. Kessler also shares insights into his musical evolution and the joy of songwriting after thirty years.

Topics discussed

Introduction to Daniel Kessler and Interpol Recording the new album with producer Andrew Wyatt Evolution of Interpol's sound and aesthetic Musical influences and the joy of discovery Kessler's daily creative routine with guitar and film Early career, record label job, and first demos The struggle to get signed and finding inner peace Forming the band and early touring milestones Pinch-me moment: Meeting Paul McCartney backstage Childhood influences and the DC music scene Navigating fame, press, and album cycles Reactions to mainstream success and Nirvana Reflecting on 20 years of Interpol and Antics Songwriting process and chemistry on the new record Creativity, inspiration, and avoiding burnout Film recommendations: Antonioni, Malick, and Fassbinder Final thoughts on the new album and future outlook
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