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Harvey Mason Jr.

Jul 28, 2026 · 56m

Summary

Harvey Mason Jr. discusses his journey from a college basketball player at Arizona to a Grammy-winning producer for artists like Michael Jackson and Beyoncé. He details his transition to CEO of the Recording Academy, where he led reforms to increase diversity and transparency during an institutional crisis. Mason reflects on his musical upbringing, the competitive mindset he brought from sports, and the enduring power of music in the modern era.

Topics discussed

Introduction to Harvey Mason Jr.'s career and background Harvey's basketball career at Arizona and mentorship under Steve Kerr Growing up in a musical household with Quincy Jones Transitioning from jingle writing to professional music production Producing for Brandy, Dark Child, and working with Michael Jackson Ad break: Sierra Nevada, Walmart, and Airbnb Becoming CEO of the Recording Academy and addressing institutional crisis The Recording Academy's stance on AI and human creativity in music Reforming Grammy voting processes and eliminating review committees The future of music, technology, and the role of the Recording Academy Outro and final advertisements
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