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Trump and Gen Z soften on China

Sep 25, 2026 · 22m

Summary

Ishan Tharoor discusses the recent Trump-Xi summit, noting that despite Trump’s deferential posture, tangible results like an AI safety dialogue or extended trade truce remain elusive. Tharoor highlights China’s leverage over critical mineral supply chains and argues that both leaders share an illiberal worldview that undermines traditional alliances. The conversation also covers declining US global popularity relative to China’s growing soft power and the continued, albeit diminished, relevance of the United Nations in global governance.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest background Trump's shift in China policy since 2016 Critical minerals and China's leverage Analysis of the Xi-Trump summit spectacle Lack of tangible results from the summit Potential US-China dialog on AI safety Contrasting worldviews of Trump and Xi China's rising global popularity vs US The continuing relevance of the UN Closing remarks and show credits
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