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Malcolm Gladwell thinks we’re having the wrong gun control debates

Sep 28, 2026 · 19m

Summary

Malcolm Gladwell discusses his new book, "The American Way of Killing," arguing that the U.S. gun violence crisis is an invented epidemic driven by dishonest public discourse. He contends that Americans focus too narrowly on mass shootings while ignoring the daily violence in disenfranchised communities, which requires more police presence and intervention programs rather than just gun control. Gladwell explains that under-resourced police forces become more violent, and he traces the roots of the Second Amendment to slave patrols, noting that 19th-century towns actually enacted strict gun …

Topics discussed

Introduction and context for the interview Malcolm Gladwell's new book and core thesis Why gun violence is an 'invention' of America Defining the 'dishonest' nature of the debate US vs. Europe: Police staffing comparisons Addressing the 'defund the police' movement Link between police numbers and violence levels Rebuilding trust through community policing Acknowledging systemic issues beyond staffing The Second Amendment and the legacy of slavery Historical gun control in the 19th-century West How ideology distorted the gun violence conversation Listener call: Police perception in Portland Gladwell's closing thoughts on police-community rift Show outro and WNYS sponsorship
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