Malcolm Gladwell thinks we’re having the wrong gun control debates
Sep 28, 2026 · 19m
Summary
Malcolm Gladwell discusses his new book, "The American Way of Killing," arguing that the U.S. gun violence crisis is an invented epidemic driven by dishonest public discourse. He contends that Americans focus too narrowly on mass shootings while ignoring the daily violence in disenfranchised communities, which requires more police presence and intervention programs rather than just gun control. Gladwell explains that under-resourced police forces become more violent, and he traces the roots of the Second Amendment to slave patrols, noting that 19th-century towns actually enacted strict gun …
Topics discussed
Introduction and context for the interview
Malcolm Gladwell's new book and core thesis
Why gun violence is an 'invention' of America
Defining the 'dishonest' nature of the debate
US vs. Europe: Police staffing comparisons
Addressing the 'defund the police' movement
Link between police numbers and violence levels
Rebuilding trust through community policing
Acknowledging systemic issues beyond staffing
The Second Amendment and the legacy of slavery
Historical gun control in the 19th-century West
How ideology distorted the gun violence conversation
Listener call: Police perception in Portland
Gladwell's closing thoughts on police-community rift
Show outro and WNYS sponsorship
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