10/13/26: Hegseth Floats Livestreamed Execution, Eugene Debs Lessons From The Grave
Oct 13, 2026 · 35m
Summary
Krystal and Saagar debate the political firestorm surrounding Pete Hegseth’s plan to live-stream the firing squad execution of Nidal Hassan, arguing it is a grotesque spectacle that dehumanizes violence. They then interview Sean Goody, author of *American Socialists*, to discuss the legacy of Eugene Debs and the rise of modern democratic socialism. Goody compares the early 20th-century socialist movement to today’s political landscape, analyzing how contemporary figures like Bernie Sanders and Zohran Mamdani are reshaping the working-class identity in the age of AI and economic precarity.
Topics discussed
Sponsorships and show introduction
Controversy over live-streaming Nidal Hassan's execution
Critique of Hegseth and the spectacle of public execution
Historical parallels: The guillotine and the French Revolution
Sponsorships and podcast promotions
Introduction of Sean Wilentz and his book on Eugene Debs
Historical roots of American socialism and Debs' radicalization
Assessing Debs' legacy and the US Socialist Party's failure
Sponsorships and podcast promotions
Comparing historical and modern socialist movements
Defining the working class in the age of AI and tech
Eugene Debs and the intersection of race and class
Closing remarks and final sponsorships
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