Brad & Will Made a Tech Pod. Brad & Will Made a Tech Pod.

356: Small Team, Big Thinking

Sep 13, 2026 · 58m

Summary

Brad and Will discuss the 2018 documentary "General Magic," which chronicles a 1990s startup spun out of Apple that pioneered technologies like responsive touchscreens, USB, and cloud computing. The episode explores how the company failed commercially despite inventing foundational tech for the modern smartphone, analyzing the roles of key figures like Tony Fadell and Andy Rubin. The hosts also touch on the recent Apple keynote featuring John Ternus and the new folding iPhone, contrasting the 1990s tech landscape with today's market.

Topics discussed

Intro: Apple Keynote and the folding phone Tim Cook's farewell keynote and camera tech Introduction to the General Magic documentary The 'too early' narrative and Xerox Park envy Mark Porat and the Macintosh team legacy The 4569 pillars and 'information machine' concept Tony Fadell, Andy Rubin, and the iPod/iPhone link Other key figures: Kevin Lynch and Megan Smith Touchscreen tech and the invention of USB Java-like architecture and autonomous agents The name General Magic and early web context The 'cloud' concept and AT&T partnership Hardware partners and the Personal Link Network HyperCard prototypes and hardware limitations Tethered usage and the Apple Newton conflict Sony's involvement and the coalition of giants Easter eggs: Fry's mousepad and 90s nostalgia Nerd details: Register programming and AI agents Supply chain strategies and the Tesla comparison Consumer reception, cost, and Palm competition Internal culture, crunch, and Mark Porat's fall Tony Fadell's path and 'move fast and break things' Modern venture capital vs. 90s funding Motorola's iTunes phone and branding lessons Patron shoutouts and show outro
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