How to Become The Music Industry's Most Sought After Collaborator w/ Aaron Dessner
Sep 23, 2026 · 1h 8m
Summary
Aaron Dessner discusses his evolution from The National guitarist to a top pop producer, detailing his creative process and collaborations with Taylor Swift, Noah Kahan, and Gracie Abrams. He reflects on the therapeutic nature of his Long Pond studio, the exhaustion of touring, and the shift from indie rock to mainstream success. Dessner also shares insights on founding independent labels, the importance of artistic experimentation, and his new venture with Interscope Records.
Topics discussed
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Introduction to Aaron Dessner and his career
Growing up as twins and early musical rivalry
The value of versatility in collaboration
Creating emotional space for artists
The relaxed environment of Long Pond studio
Collaborating with Taylor Swift, Noah, and Gracie
The Hudson Valley and Long Pond studio history
Host intro and Aaron's early Brooklyn studio
The National's current creative direction
Managing exhaustion and creativity while touring
Making Big Red Machine and Folklore
Winning the Grammy for Album of the Year
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Navigating mainstream success and label pressure
The changing music industry and fan culture
Founding independent labels and residencies
Lessons from cross-disciplinary collaborations
New label ventures and supporting artists
Founding festivals like Eau Claire and Homecoming
Logistics and lessons from running festivals
Games: Spin the Record and What Would You Cue
Closing remarks and sponsor ads
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