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Why AI Has No ROI with Paul Kedrosky

Jun 3, 2026 · 47m

Summary

Host Ed Zitron and economist Paul Kudrosky critique the AI industry’s lack of ROI, highlighting GitHub Copilot’s shift to token-based pricing that exposed previously hidden costs. They discuss structural risks like duration mismatches between debt-funded data centers and deflating token prices, arguing that massive capital expenditures may become stranded assets. The conversation also debunks inflated GDP metrics and the "AI dark output" narrative, suggesting current AI adoption produces low-value "slop" rather than genuine economic productivity.

Topics discussed

Sponsorship and show introduction Guest intro and the AI ROI debate GitHub Copilot pricing and token costs Accounting for AI operating expenses Run rates and structural debt risks Comparison to Amazon and dot-com era Square sponsorship segment UnitedHealthcare and ZepBound ads Asset reuse and the dot-com fallacy Measuring AI output and GDP distortion Square sponsorship segment UnitedHealthcare and ZepBound ads Radiologist AI and labor market myths Data center debt and regional economies Google's equity raise and market circularity Closing remarks and credits ZepBound, Seafoam, and final ads
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