Behind the Bastards Behind the Bastards

Part Two: The Rise of the "Activist" Investor

Jun 11, 2026 · 1h 11m

Summary

Host Robert Evans and guest Kim Kelly examine Bill Ackman’s disastrous JCPenney takeover, where he installed Ron Johnson to implement a failed Apple Store-inspired strategy that alienated customers and cost Pershing Square $500 million. The episode contrasts this with Ackman’s equally flawed billion-dollar short against Herbalife, which was defeated by rival investors Dan Loeb and Carl Icahn. Through anecdotes like a humiliating cycling trip, the hosts highlight Ackman’s arrogance and inability to recognize his own failures.

Topics discussed

Intro and recap of Bill Ackman's persona Ackman's failed JCPenney takeover begins Ron Johnson's Apple Store strategy for JCPenney The failure of everyday low prices and coupons Ron Johnson's firing and Ackman's losses Ackman's arrogance and the cycling incident The Herbalife short and MLM business model The pyramid scheme lobby and political influence Ackman's public humiliation and short failure ValuJet and other failed investments Shorting the economy during the pandemic Campaigns against Harvard and MIT leadership The plagiarism controversy involving his wife Recent political activism and conclusion
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