Behind the Bastards Behind the Bastards

Part One: Martin Niemöller, the author of 'First They Came', was a murderous fascist

Sep 29, 2026 · 59m

Summary

Hosts Margaret Killjoy and a guest examine the life of poet Martin Niemöller, challenging the common narrative that he was a passive observer who later became a resolute anti-fascist. They argue that Niemöller was actually an enthusiastic supporter of the Nazi regime, particularly regarding anti-Semitism, and that his famous "First They Came" poem omits key groups to reflect his own prejudices. The episode traces his upbringing in a deeply Lutheran, nationalist family and his early career in the German Navy, highlighting how his personal history contradicts the sanitized version of his lega…

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest Margaret Killjoy Introducing Martin Niemöller and the 'First They Came' poem Reading the original poem and its historical context Modern interpretations and the 'oppression olympics' debate Niemöller's reputation as a reformed fascist sympathizer Sponsor segments: Preparation H, Airtasker, Point Me, Roland Martin Niemöller family history and the Lutheran heritage Martin Luther's anti-Jewish writings and their legacy Father Heinrich Niemöller's influence and patriarchal views Martin's childhood, nationalism, and the Kaiser's navy Sponsor segments and Blue Apron joke Martin's obsession with the German Navy and WWI buildup Naval training, camaraderie, and the eve of WWI The outbreak of World War I and German enthusiasm Sponsor segments: Airtasker and Roland Martin Debate on responsibility for starting World War I Martin's naval service: mines, U-boats, and war crimes Sinking the SS Aragon and the controversy over survivor rescue Conclusion, book recommendations, and final sponsors
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