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Are Investors Underestimating China AI? Ft. Kevin Carter, EMXETFs

Sep 18, 2026 · 42m

Summary

Kevin Carter of EMX ETFs discusses the launch of TGRZ, an ETF focused on China’s open-weight AI models, which offer lower costs and greater flexibility than US competitors. The episode explores the five-layer AI stack, the impact of DeepSeek’s low-cost model on market volatility, and the strategic advantages of Chinese tech firms. Carter also clarifies the context behind the 2020 Ant Group IPO halt and contrasts high public AI acceptance in China with growing skepticism in the US.

Topics discussed

Intro: Why Chinese AI models are gaining popularity Episode overview and guest introduction The process of launching an ETF via white-label platforms The 5-layer AI stack and the 'Mag 3' infrastructure leaders DeepSeek's launch, cost efficiency, and founder background Open-weight vs closed-weight models and cost differences US adoption of Chinese models and industry backlash The Ant Group IPO and the 'China Tech Crackdown' context Upcoming EMX ETFs covering different AI stack layers Data centers in space vs. underwater: feasibility debate Public perception of AI in China versus the US Will AI eliminate jobs? Historical analogies and views Closing remarks and resource links Investment advice disclaimer
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