121: Who blinks first? The battle for Hormuz, with Rich Goldberg
Jun 7, 2026
Summary
Host Habib Gurewitz interviews Rich Goldberg from the Foundation for Defense of Democracies to analyze the military and economic standoff with Iran. They discuss the severe degradation of Iran’s nuclear and missile capabilities following recent operations, while debating the feasibility of reopening the Strait of Hormuz against asymmetric drone and missile threats. The conversation explores whether sustained blockades and internal economic pressure can force the regime to negotiate or collapse.
Topics discussed
Introduction, guest bio, and sponsor messages
Assessment of Iran's degraded nuclear and military capabilities
Intelligence gaps, hidden facilities, and verification challenges
Strait of Hormuz blockade, asymmetric threats, and stalemate
Iran's economic resilience, regime ideology, and pain tolerance
Ghost fleets, oil market dynamics, and global supply adjustments
Negotiation strategies and flaws of the JCPOA model
Diverging US and Israeli timelines and strategic objectives
Conclusion: Project Freedom, sanctions relief, and final outlook
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