Are We Doomed? Are We Doomed?

The Everything Vaccine

Aug 25, 2026 · 40m

Summary

Host Ben Bradford explores the history of pandemics and the scientific race to develop universal vaccines with guests Carl Zimmer and Juliet Morrison. The episode examines how viruses like flu mutate to evade traditional shots, highlighting efforts to create broader protections targeting stable viral parts or boosting innate immunity. While experts agree a single "everything vaccine" is unlikely, they emphasize that advancing these technologies offers significant hope in outpacing future disease threats.

Topics discussed

Sponsor message from Schwab Introduction: The 2009 Swine Flu and the race for vaccines The history of pandemics and the nature of viruses The 1918 Flu Pandemic and early vaccine failures The annual flu vaccine guessing game and universal vaccine goals Sponsor message from Jerry car insurance How vaccines work and the challenge of mutating antigens Edward Jenner, cowpox, and the first smallpox vaccine Current research into universal flu vaccines Funding challenges and the threat of future pandemics Teaser for The Sunday Story on commercial fishing Hosts discuss their jobs and the podcast format The gross history of creating the BCG tuberculosis vaccine BCG's unexpected broad protection against other diseases Nasal spray experiments and training the innate immune system Can we ever win the race against viruses? Expert opinions Outro, listener requests, and credits
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