Danny Bessner and Derek Davidson welcome Lee Jones to discuss the "end of the end of history" and the current state of international relations. Jones argues that the neoliberal order established after 1989 is crumbling without a coherent successor, framing the era as one of decay rather than a new ideological dawn. The conversation explores Francis Fukuyama’s original thesis, debating whether liberalism’s ideological dominance has truly ended or simply dissipated. They also analyze the geopolitical implications of this transition, contrasting views on whether movements like MAGA represent a…