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Naveen Rao: 4D Computing, AI's Energy Wall & Beating Biology

Sep 21, 2026 · 22m

Summary

Naveen Rao, co-founder of Unconventional AI, presents a new "dynamical computer" that uses physical oscillators to achieve 1,000x greater power efficiency than traditional GPUs. By leveraging dynamical systems theory and sparsity, this architecture eliminates the energy-intensive movement of data between memory and compute. Rao shares the first public results of their physical prototype, which generates images using mere nanojoules, aiming to solve the global energy crisis facing AI data centers.

Topics discussed

Introduction and Naveen Rao's background Career history: Nirvana, Intel, and Databricks Unconventional AI mission and company structure The energy crisis in AI data centers Biological inspiration: Brain efficiency vs GPUs The problem of data movement and Moore's Law Rethinking computation: Abstractions and physics Dynamical systems and the metronome analogy UNO model: Image generation via oscillators Sparsity: Improving scalability and performance First physical dynamical computer prototype results 4D Computing: A new architectural paradigm Future implications: Efficiency, robots, and markets Q&A: Path to product and ecosystem needs Q&A: Porting existing models and architectures Q&A: Team composition and software stack
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