Apple Says OpenAI Stole Its Secrets
Jul 16, 2026 · 1h 12m
Summary
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI, alleging espionage by former employees. They cover OpenAI’s GPT-5.6 release, the retirement of the Atlas browser, and a new Codex keypad. The episode also analyzes Demis Hassabis’s AI regulation framework and the ongoing debate over open-source models versus corporate control.
Topics discussed
Intro and Ad Breaks
Apple sues OpenAI over trade secrets
OpenAI's hardware and the Louie robot
ChatGPT Super App and Fable agent
OpenAI's new keypad device
OpenAI leadership changes
Sponsors and Patreon thanks
Demis Hassabis on AI regulation and open source
Anthropic's dystopian ad campaign
MailButler and Decagon ads
Speed round: Meta, Gemini, and Fable
Outro and final sponsors
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