Zone Zero
Nov 3, 2026 · 37m
Summary
This episode explores the tension between the historic Arts and Crafts aesthetic of the Berkeley Hills and the urgent need for wildfire safety. It follows Michel Thuati, a resident who transformed his lush garden into a fire-resistant landscape, and City Council member Brent Blackaby, who introduced the controversial "Ember Ordinance" to mandate defensible space. The story highlights the community’s heated debate over preserving the neighborhood’s unique character versus adapting to the escalating climate crisis.
Topics discussed
Sponsor: Acura
Sponsor: Indeed
Intro: Berkeley wildfire adaptation
Michel Thuati's love for Berkeley gardens
Rising fire risk and neighbor tensions
History of the Berkeley Hillside Club
Architect Bernard Maybeck's legacy
Arts and Crafts design and garden philosophy
The 1923 Berkeley Hills fire
Michel's personal fire mitigation efforts
Community organizing and Firewise groups
Councilor Blackaby and the Palisades fire
Details of the Ember Ordinance
Public backlash and online debates
City council vote on the Ember Ordinance
Sponsors: Anthropic, Talkiatry, Sonos, Article
Implementing the ordinance and community help
Insurance rates and compliance progress
Rethinking landscape architecture for fire
Credits and remaining sponsors
Listen ad-free on Castria