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'If You Can Keep It': The Power Of Dissent In 2026

Jul 20, 2026 · 33m

Summary

Host Todd Zwilich interviews Julia Angwin and Ami Fields Meyer about their book, *On Courage*, which explores global dissent strategies against rising authoritarianism. Drawing from interviews with over 100 activists, the authors discuss how ordinary Americans can practice "collective stubbornness" through mutual aid, legal challenges, and nonviolent resistance. They emphasize that maintaining authenticity and finding joy in activism are crucial tools for defending democracy when traditional political norms weaken.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Defining dissent and the stakes of resistance Guests introduce their book on courage and authoritarianism The role of big tech and the psychology of dissidents Why protest is necessary but not sufficient for change Historical examples: Soviet dissidents and Alexei Navalny Listener stories and ICE detention center protests Collective stubbornness and legal resistance strategies Is dissent only for the left? Authoritarianism on the right The pleasure of agency and finding hope in hopeless causes Conclusion and final listener reflections
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