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Pending: Navigating Uncertainty With Faith

Jul 28, 2026 · 44m

Summary

In this 1A episode, host Todd Zwilick explores how faith—religious or secular—helps people navigate life’s uncertainties. Guests JS Park, a hospital chaplain, and Greg Epstein, a humanist chaplain, discuss finding meaning through ritual, community, and personal values during crises like illness or grief. They examine the role of technology as a modern "religion" and emphasize that accepting uncertainty and connecting with others can provide strength when traditional beliefs fail.

Topics discussed

Intro: Faith, uncertainty, and the podcast series overview Sponsors: Workday and Medtronic AI tools Guest introductions: June Park and Greg Epstein Greg Epstein on non-religious chaplaincy and modern uncertainty June Park on hospital chaplaincy and shattered worldviews First principles of faith and accepting uncertainty Sponsors: Workday, Mint Mobile, and NPR app Listener perspectives on faith and personal values Pop culture, rigid certainty, and the value of ambiguity Decline of religion and the rise of technology as a new faith Human connection vs. technological solutions for meaning Listener stories: Loss of faith during crisis and grief Rituals and tangible anchors in the absence of religious belief Humanistic communities and mindfulness as alternatives to dogma Listener comment on finding peace in uncertainty Navigating family dynamics and grief in hospital rooms Impermanence, suffering, and the power of shared presence Follow-up care and the body's memory of trauma Final takeaways: Finding strength in 'I don't know' Outro and preview of next episode on addiction
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