Pending: Navigating Uncertainty With Faith
Jul 28, 2026 · 44m
Summary
In this 1A episode, host Todd Zwilick explores how faith—religious or secular—helps people navigate life’s uncertainties. Guests JS Park, a hospital chaplain, and Greg Epstein, a humanist chaplain, discuss finding meaning through ritual, community, and personal values during crises like illness or grief. They examine the role of technology as a modern "religion" and emphasize that accepting uncertainty and connecting with others can provide strength when traditional beliefs fail.
Topics discussed
Intro: Faith, uncertainty, and the podcast series overview
Sponsors: Workday and Medtronic AI tools
Guest introductions: June Park and Greg Epstein
Greg Epstein on non-religious chaplaincy and modern uncertainty
June Park on hospital chaplaincy and shattered worldviews
First principles of faith and accepting uncertainty
Sponsors: Workday, Mint Mobile, and NPR app
Listener perspectives on faith and personal values
Pop culture, rigid certainty, and the value of ambiguity
Decline of religion and the rise of technology as a new faith
Human connection vs. technological solutions for meaning
Listener stories: Loss of faith during crisis and grief
Rituals and tangible anchors in the absence of religious belief
Humanistic communities and mindfulness as alternatives to dogma
Listener comment on finding peace in uncertainty
Navigating family dynamics and grief in hospital rooms
Impermanence, suffering, and the power of shared presence
Follow-up care and the body's memory of trauma
Final takeaways: Finding strength in 'I don't know'
Outro and preview of next episode on addiction
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