The Tubs - "My songs do a hatchet job on myself"
Summary
Owen from The Tubbs discusses the financial realities of touring, the shift from DIY ethics to professional management, and the evolving concept of "selling out." He explores his dual career as a musician and fiction writer, contrasting the creative processes of songwriting and novel-writing. The conversation also touches on using art to process grief, the utility of zero-hour contracts for musicians, and his band's new album, Hard Life.
Topics discussed
Financial struggles and the cost of touring
DIY ethos vs. hiring staff and managers
Changing attitudes towards 'selling out' and corporate festivals
Authenticity, marketing, and the definition of selling out
Podcasting vs. music: Effort and reward
Songwriting influences and lyrical style
Writing unlikable characters and self-criticism in lyrics
The immediacy of music vs. the depth of writing
Vocal style and family musical background
Processing grief and mother's suicide in art
Audience connection and avoiding manufactured narratives
Delusion, ambition, and fear of criticism
Touring costs and personal financial habits
Zero-hours contracts and odd jobs
Dreams of touring Japan and new album release
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